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| Author: | Tom West [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Considering most folks seem to use glue on nuts, I wonder what glue most use on their saddles...? Tom |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Don't use glue on saddles... |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
no glue on saddle , bridge ...... if i have to ..... but none on saddle |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
No! No glue on saddles either. Strings will most definitely keep it where it needs to be. |
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| Author: | Dreadnuffin' [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
There isn't any need to glue in a drop-in saddle. Martinesque long-through saddles on the other hand are, I believe, affixed with HHG to facilitate ease of future repair? |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
No glue on through saddles either. They should be tight enough that they won't fall out anyway. |
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| Author: | RusRob [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
No glue here either on drop in saddles, I make them so the fit tight enough that they don't fall out if I turn the guitar over but not tight enough that they are difficult to get out. But on through saddle bridges I do use a very thin application of Titebond glue even though they still fit tightly. That is just to keep them from sliding to one side which could become a snag point for skin or shirt sleeves and would also skew the strings to one side. I have however run into some that have been glued in but my guess is it is because they were not made to fit snugly. If they are glued in they are a pain in the rear to get out. Bob |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
I don't glue through saddles either but the reasoning behind it is that it gives the whole bridge system a bit of structure where it is missing the edge strength where the saddle goes through the bridge. Makes sense to me but it would be really difficult to remove a glued in saddle. |
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| Author: | DannyV [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Gorilla Glue. Don't want that little sucker falling out. If I'm out of that I find a wrap of duct tape works. |
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| Author: | arie [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
none. if all else fails try Araldite A100. it's an epoxy used to glue composite aircraft wing laminations together. could do the trick... |
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| Author: | Greg B [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Hmm, I've only ever made on through saddle, and I glued it in with HHG. It should be fairly easily removable should I ever need to replace it. Never glued a drop in saddle. That seems to be the point of drop in saddles. They drop in and don't need glue... |
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| Author: | murrmac [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
I haven't had to remove a glued in through saddle yet, but I would have thought that masking off most of the bridge and body with marine grade duck tape and polythene sheet, and directing a steam jet onto the saddle (as in neck reset steam nozzle) would do the trick in double quick time. I have never seen this recommended anywhere, however, so maybe there is some good reason not to do it this way . . . |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
I think you can just heat the saddle with an iron or a soldering gun... |
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| Author: | MikeyV [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
I'm surprised that NO ONE glues saddles. I glue Martin type thru saddles with HHG. It provides alot of resistance to saddle lean, and reduces the chance the front of the bridge will split out. Not to mention making the bridge/saddle combo a complete unit. To remove, I made a little cardboard and foil shield that exposes the saddle only. Put it under a 100W lamp for a few min, pulls right out. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
"I think you can just heat the saddle with an iron or a soldering gun..." I assume this is another comment made in jest. We should be a little bit careful to identify our comments as such lest some unsuspecting newbie take them seriously. |
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| Author: | Imbler [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
I've never seen a need to glue in classical saddles. I've read that many players have a "winter" and a "summer" saddle to account for humidity differences, which would really indicate against gluing one in! Mike |
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| Author: | mkellyvrod [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Don't glue my saddles, don't glue my nuts (Oh, that doesn't sound right). Anyway, generally end up with a pretty tight fit on the saddle as well. |
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| Author: | murrmac [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
I am always mildly puzzled by how so many people are able to separate hide glue joints with heat alone, no moisture, and so easily, when Frank Ford was unable to get hide glue to melt in a test joint even after cooking it in his oven all day and getting the temperature up to 375F. http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier ... etest.html |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
DannyV wrote: Gorilla Glue. Don't want that little sucker falling out. If I'm out of that I find a wrap of duct tape works. I'm sure that you're using the fancy coloured tape, and not the trashy silver stuff, eh Danny? Alex |
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| Author: | MikeyV [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Murrmac, I neglected to mention that I did use a bit of water. put a bit on each side with a q-tip. I think HGG is pretty resistant to heat, IF dry. Another thing to think of. Martin glues in their long saddles, and I think they always have.\ I have never felt the need for different seasonal saddles, or really noticed much change in the action. I do live in the SF bay area, pretty mild here. |
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| Author: | RusRob [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What type of glue do you use on your saddles...? |
Clay S. wrote: "I think you can just heat the saddle with an iron or a soldering gun..." I assume this is another comment made in jest. We should be a little bit careful to identify our comments as such lest some unsuspecting newbie take them seriously. My guess is his suggestion was not in jest. I have done the same thing to remove glued in saddles. I have run into a number of saddle though bridges that have had the saddle glued in. A touch of heat is enough to loosen the glue to get them out. Other wise they come out in pieces and you have a nasty mess to clean up. You can usually apply a bit of heat and the saddle will come right out and then apply a bit more heat and scrape the glue out of the slot. Bob |
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